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24 June 2010 @ 04:06 pm
Thoughts on early Rome and the dark ages of rampant illiteracy  
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Andy Adkins May 16 at 5:53pm
Starting simple:
1) Jesus healed the sick to end their suffering.
2) For him, according to the true gospel (the Gospel of the Hebrews), our sin is not knowing God(divinity) and this is always a product of pain and suffering (disconnection from community)
3) Pain inhibits cognitive function. It forces the sufferer to attend their thoughts to the pain rather than to the world that reaches understanding of God (divinity).
4) Pain/suffering/anger (cognitive disconnection from wholeness is pain) destroys the wisdom of the wise and the discernment of the discerning like the burning of the Library at Alexandria by Theophilous (thought and "truth" control)


forget the gnostic Peter



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Andy Adkins May 16 at 6:22pm
that at least once your attention (for the purpose of locating) was captured by the thinking (living) of a perambulating spider. Reflections on this occurrence for the wisest possible among us did spell out the immediate importance of emphasizing love affirming relations between all (and modern science is certifying that brilliance http://andyadkins.livejournal.com/tag/science has samples).

The Roman empire blamed the followers of Christ for its declining issues and decided to assert control over them. Most Christians at that time were from Nations (ethnic groups) made subservient to the interests of Rome (the women were raped and treated as concubines(which is why Paul in I. Corinthians sought to prevent marriage)

Don't take any of this the wrong way. I am just asserting that the vision of the world introduced by Christ drew Nations (ethnic groups/ not Countries) together and this threatened the established political order of Countries. This vision would have swept the entire world by now if it had not been desecrated to protect the status quo. That is, self-interested political leaders sought and did assume control over the movement with Violence, Anger, and Suffering that they codified as essential elements of Christianity.

Andy Adkins May 16 at 7:07pm
Augustine's (wrote the city of god) bio speaks to the politics of the Roman empire and Christianity.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Augustine_of_Hippo ....
He was born in the city of Thagaste,[9] the present day Souk Ahras, Algeria, to a pagan father named Patricius and a Catholic mother named Monica. He was educated in North Africa and resisted his mother's pleas to become Christian. Living as a pagan intellectual, he took a concubine, with whom he had a son, Adeodatus, and became a Manichean. Later he converted to Catholicism, became a bishop, and opposed heresies, such as the belief that people can have the ability to choose to be good to such a degree as to merit salvation without divine aid (Pelagianism).

Paul and Roman imperial scheming ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodosius_I ) through invented schisms for the word brought into being the current forms of reactionary Islam because the inarticulate, illiterate, and the ignorant that their teachings fostered became, en masse, inadequate conveyors of the word (which is brilliant) and were incapable of overcoming the rhetoric and machinations of the otherwise centered (who would want to buy a house that the tongue says is a hovel?)

Similarly, Reformationist, though based upon literacy, coddled royalty with the short-sightedness of Paul's brand of inflict suffering thought control

**On Reactionary Islam (could be a sister rather than a cousin and all might call ourselves christian islamists or ?...There can be no doubt that Muhammad was well placed to direct and serve the spiritual and communal needs of his people created by international political conditons that were imposed upon them.....On the long course, however, violence blackens all systems with which it mingles ). Islam and the arab world blossomed during the Christian dark ages because they emphasized literacy.

The insertion of reins for use in holding wisdom back has meant only conflicts and wars, destruction, pain, and anguish whose effect upon human ontogeny are always disconnection that makes divinity and the value of the word opaque and inaccessible for use as instruments for truth